The Importance of Partnerships with Scott Thomas

004: The Importance of Partnerships with Scott Thomas

If you’re a member of King’s Council, you know and have met Scott Thomas at one of our events or on our coaching calls. You probably heard him in last week’s episode with Rylee, Connor, and Steve discussing the origin and intention of King’s Council. And you know that Scott loves helping people in their businesses and is a man of intention.

So this episode, we brought him on the show to share his story and man did he bring it! Scott discusses the importance of partnerships in not just business but life. He also shares his upbringing and the new currency in his life in which he is measuring his success.

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The Importance of Partnerships with Scott Thomas Transcript

[00:00:00] Scott Thomas: [00:00:00] I think this goes back to kind of our example, when we say equally yoked, right? When you’re not equally yoked, and one is pulling the weight, eventually all that does is creates resentment. And that [00:00:10] person feels the pain of the yolk crooked. And when that yolk is crooked, it’s hurting the one who’s doing all the pulling and the other, one’s just kind of getting drug along anyway.

[00:00:18] So both of you are wasting your [00:00:20] time. Right. But when you’re both pulling, I will say it, I think just purely on the results from that day, we started then. To today. I believe all [00:00:30] jobs, all companies, all outcomes have been exponentially great. Just because there’s two pulling people. Absolutely.

[00:00:50] [00:00:50] [00:00:40] Rylee Meek: [00:00:50] all right. All right, everybody. Welcome. Back to another episode of the Kings council podcast. I’m your host Riley meek. And let me tell you, I’m super [00:01:00] stoked about our, I can’t even say guests necessarily today, uh, because he is, you know, on the leadership team here with, with Steve and I within the King’s council.

[00:01:08] Mr. [00:01:10] Scott, Thomas, welcome to the show brother.

[00:01:12] Scott Thomas: [00:01:12] Great to be here. Great to be here,

[00:01:14] Rylee Meek: [00:01:14] man. This is going to be fun. We thought. You know, we’re literally recording this podcast in our hotel room right [00:01:20] now, which Scott and I, for the most part live in three quarters of our life, it feels like, uh, but we thought it would be a great time for us just to hop [00:01:30] on here and.

[00:01:31] Let our listeners know. I mean, a lot of, a lot of members within the King’s counsel tribe have, have met Scott and I’ve heard from him on our coaching calls and things like [00:01:40] that, but we thought it would be great just to hear kind of the origin story of this marketing Ninja guru and you know, just how we’ve met because you know, Scott and I go, [00:01:50] Hey, back long before Kings council was ever even a thought in our mind, or even before Steve and I had known each other.

[00:01:57] And so we thought it’d be great to come on and just. Get that [00:02:00] origin story, as I mentioned of the legendary Scott Thomas. So Scott man give us w we’ll get into like how we met dude, but take us back to like little boy [00:02:10] Scott,

[00:02:13] Scott Thomas: [00:02:13] how far back let’s go all the way back. All right. So I was born in upstate New York Rochester area, kind of that [00:02:20] area of both people, Rochester, Buffalo, and really kind of a small town grandparents. And my parents met in a really, really small town. I think there’s. Probably five, 600 people. It’s really, really small [00:02:30] Rushford Rushford Lake Rushford area of New York.

[00:02:32] And, you know, for the most part I had, what I thought was, you know, a kind of a Norman Rockwell sort [00:02:40] of, kind of upbringing. We were at church every Wednesday and every Sunday, and there’s four of us kids. So two boys and two girls, I was third child. Be able to [00:02:50] sense that at some point to get to know

[00:02:52] Rylee Meek: [00:02:52] your child, middle child,

[00:02:56] Scott Thomas: [00:02:56] baby is different than middle.

[00:02:57] Yes. Yes. So, yeah, so I, I [00:03:00] learned a lot growing up and I kind of have learned as I get older that I find some of what shaped me is some of those really early years, especially having brothers and sisters and different [00:03:10] personalities in the house and just going through. Me trying to kind of find my way. I was a little more spirited.

[00:03:16] If you will, as a child, teachers and babysitters may have called it [00:03:20] something different, but I’ll remain calling it spirited. I had a little extra energy and I was always looking for stuff to do. So I w you know what I found when I was younger, I would, I would [00:03:30] learn. Believe it or not. I believe the origin of some of my marketing slash communication skills, things like that started like really young.

[00:03:38] So being third, [00:03:40] my, my oldest sister was sometimes our babysitter. So I would notice that if. It was just mom home and we were all doing stuff and I wanted to get my way, or I [00:03:50] wanted to do something. I would ask her a certain way. But if my older sister was babysitting us, she handled things slightly different than my mom.

[00:03:58] She had a slightly different [00:04:00] personality. And then of course, when mom was gone, she was the loss. So if she was the boss, I had to consider handling those things little bit different. And I learned a lot about. The four of us [00:04:10] have pretty different actual personalities. And I learned different communications and I noticed that.

[00:04:16] Just by changing your words or changing the way you ask for stuff or [00:04:20] changing the way you approach a person, the likelihood and the chances of getting something that you’re trying to accomplish. Or if you’re trying to influence [00:04:30] them, like if I’m trying to get my sister to allow us as a babysitter to stay up late was very different than trying to get my mom.

[00:04:36] To get us to stay up late. Right? Like knowing, knowing

[00:04:38] Rylee Meek: [00:04:38] your audience.

[00:04:39] Scott Thomas: [00:04:39] Yes. You got to know [00:04:40] your audience. Sure, sure. So I think what I found a little bit, there was communication skills. Not only do you have to understand others, but you can actually change yours a little bit. So [00:04:50] flash forward, getting into school age, I had one thing kind of.

[00:04:53] Going for me, maybe somebody would relate to this, but I got glasses when I was like four. They didn’t have LASIK back then. Now [00:05:00] LASIK. No, I had the big you’ll shoot your eye out black frame, you know, Christmas story glasses, right. Red rider. Right. So, but here’s kind of something that I noticed. So I was a [00:05:10] little bit chubby had tons of, uh, energy, always wanted to play, always wanted to do stuff, but I was also the kid with glasses and there’s times in elementary school, everyone wants to play Dodge ball or everyone wants to pick [00:05:20] a team and they want to do something.

[00:05:21] And I noticed you don’t necessarily get. Picked right off the bat as the stellar athlete that no one knew I was at the time. So I do remember a couple of [00:05:30] times where I didn’t get picked and there was things that I would do to get around that. So I started noticing that if I didn’t get the response I wanted, I could adapt and change.

[00:05:40] [00:05:40] So one of the things I did at a really young age is if everyone was going to play a game and they had to pick me for a team, I knew I might get picked last. So I was always the one on recess and other places. [00:05:50] I’d go out and I’d start, or I’d create the game because if I make the game or I started it, I’m almost always going to be one of the captains.

[00:05:57] Right. So there’s no chance of not getting picked if I’m to the [00:06:00] leader. And I start my own thing. So that was kind of that early entrepreneur. Hey, if you really want something to happen, you got to do it yourself sometimes. So I learned a little bit of that. Early early, early, [00:06:10] but as a student, I gotta be honest.

[00:06:11] I, I was happily breezing through with seasoned these I wasn’t definitely not the studious one. I didn’t really have the attention span [00:06:20] to stick through school and academically, you know, trying for straight A’s. I gave up on that relatively quick, just that, Hey, as long as I can pass and keep moving, let’s keep going.

[00:06:29] So I [00:06:30] found that as I got through kind of flash forward into high school, I found that I didn’t really know what I wanted to do kind of in life. Right. And I didn’t, I was trying to figure out my way and trying to [00:06:40] go. And my parents were super, super supportive. So tell a little bit about me when I kind of say Norman Rockwell again, church, every Wednesday night with youth group, we always had youth over at our house Sunday [00:06:50] morning, Sunday night.

[00:06:51] Sometimes if there was other events, anytime there was a summer camper program, we went all the time. It was great. So my view of the world was kind of. [00:07:00] Like what I think is kind of clean and pure. And both of my grandparents made it to their 58th wedding anniversary, both sides of my grandparents and my parents to their 53rd.

[00:07:10] [00:07:10] I’m probably not going to get anywhere near that. But what I found brothers and sisters, the whole thing, like everyone’s marriages, family unit, that was all kind of super [00:07:20] clean to me. So I learned late. As I found friends of mine, of divorced parents and broken homes and things like that. So those other things kind of came to me a little bit later, [00:07:30] too.

[00:07:30] So I was sort of oblivious. I thought, I thought everyone could run. Everyone could draw. Everyone had two parents. Everyone had happy household. Like I just thought that for a long time, So I learned stuff later and that was [00:07:40] in high school, mostly because that’s kind of when you’re trying to find your way and you’re exploring, and then you can drive and you can go to friend’s houses and you learn more stuff.

[00:07:46] So there was that middle of high school when I finally [00:07:50] said, all right, no more glasses. I got to try something different. There’s girls around Holy cow. They don’t like. The dude was glasses.

[00:07:57] Rylee Meek: [00:07:57] So no offense,

[00:08:01] [00:08:00] Scott Thomas: [00:08:01] but as a kid who that bothered them. Right. Right. So that was one of my things that I carried. So through high school, I discovered girls and getting that changed a couple things.

[00:08:09] I wrestled in high [00:08:10] school for a little there. And I was like, okay, I like that because it’s not a team sport. I get to go out. If I win. I get the whole prize myself, but if I lose, it’s only on me. So I [00:08:20] also found that I was pretty self-reliant and I had to dig deep because I wasn’t so sure of myself a lot of times, because I wasn’t that good at grades and some other things.

[00:08:28] So I had my own [00:08:30] insecurities as everyone else did. So what happened was in 11th grade, I was taking an oceanography class. This was pretty pivotal as it goes to career. So I wanted to kind of touch on this. [00:08:40] In 11th grade, I had an oceanography class and toward the late end of the semester, we had to dissect a little shark and, you know, they got the metal.

[00:08:50] [00:08:49] Trays with a wax in it with the pins and the whole thing. And you got to cut it open. And I remember the teachers say, okay, when you’re done and you’ve identified all of the parts, I want you to take out a [00:09:00] piece of paper and do a little diagram, like draw the shark and point. That’s the stomach, that’s the, this blah, blah, blah.

[00:09:06] Right. So being the smart, I like that. I was as a young [00:09:10] kid, what I did, I drew this thing. Like the pins, the drop shadow from the pins, the shark was laying open. It had scars on the shark. I remember the [00:09:20] wax of the pan. I drew cuts because people would take the exact deal and cut their initials in the wax.

[00:09:25] I drew everything. So it looked like a photo, a black and white photo of this shark and it [00:09:30] was labeled correctly. So I remember Mr.  was his name. My teacher came over and he just froze for a second looking at, and he goes, Where did you get this? Like, what do you mean? He goes, where’d [00:09:40] you get the strong where’d you get this picture?

[00:09:41] I said, I drew it and he goes, man, can I have that? And I kind of went, I mean, I, I guess my mom will [00:09:50] probably want it, but I guess you could. I mean, I, I guess I’ll ask her, he goes, how about this? You give me this drawing. You just show up at the exam. I’ll give you an egg. Oh yeah, cheers. I’ll let my mom know like, no problem, but right [00:10:00] then what clicked?

[00:10:00] Hold on a second. Does art actually have a currency? Does somebody want art? And am I the only one here who can do it? Like, Oh, there’s something different. And that was like,

[00:10:10] [00:10:10] Rylee Meek: [00:10:10] which, by the way, guys, there’s a reason why I always sit. To what is it to the right of you to the left of you when we play a Pictionary or any other game [00:10:20] telestrations, which is a game that my wife and I can not sit by each other if you’ve ever played that game.

[00:10:24] But I always sit where Scott is passing me because. I

[00:10:29] Scott Thomas: [00:10:29] do the drawing and I [00:10:30] hand it off to him and he’s got a guess what it is. Yeah. It’s pretty easy

[00:10:32] Rylee Meek: [00:10:32] to guess where it comes from. And when he’s saying like shadowing that I can, I’m literally envisioning like the, his initials in the wax and the shadow, [00:10:40] the dude’s an exceptional drawer.

[00:10:44] Scott Thomas: [00:10:44] No, I know, but it was kind of, what’s funny is that it was even in a rebellious, smart Alec kind of way, like. I [00:10:50] could have literally just drawn the thing and passed it in and been done with it. But you know what, I’m going to go overboard. Right. So I want a little as they can say no extra, but, so what happened is it [00:11:00] triggered?

[00:11:00] Oh, there is something I can do. Sweet. Well, I know I don’t want to go to college. I just knew there was no chance. Four more years of school. Are you kidding? I was counting [00:11:10] days of my senior year, but I ended up. Asking a guy from our church who was a director of marketing of a big company. And he said, I asked him any [00:11:20] business, is there any way to make money doing art?

[00:11:21] He goes, Oh yeah, we hire marketing artists all the time, but some of it’s going to be with computers and sun’s going to be a little bit different, but yeah, well you can make good money doing that. I go, Oh, okay, well, I’ll go learn that. [00:11:30] So I left high school two weeks later, signed up, paid my own way to go to a little technical school, did almost a little over a year and a half.

[00:11:38] It was kind of at your own pace [00:11:40] kind of school. Cause everyone was a little bit different. And I knew I wasn’t gonna make four years. I did that. I started working, uh, I got a couple of jobs like ad agencies and little things like that. [00:11:50] What I learned though through the process of understanding the art was the commercial side of the art and it was messaging and getting your messaging and do you know, just by laying out an ad a [00:12:00] certain way or doing a billboard or a sign or something with images that you’re actually communicating to people.

[00:12:07] Not always with just words, just with a feel [00:12:10] or a brand image or whatever those things are. So going through that, I learned again, by changing imagery or changing a style that you can actually communicate [00:12:20] different or evoke a different response from people. So then I started to practice more and more of getting response from people.

[00:12:28] And that’s when I [00:12:30] actually ended up working at BIC. Uh, you know, pens and lighters the company. And I ended up working my way from the art room to director of marketing all the way through and then left and [00:12:40] opened my own Abbott and C and I got them as a customer, which is already a task in itself. And then I had a bunch of really big customers in the Tampa Bay, Florida [00:12:50] area, where I’m from Clearwater, Florida area and built that up and then did a bunch of other kind of ad agency style jobs, things like that.

[00:12:56] But really what I honed in on is I would say, [00:13:00] I, I. Mastered the craft of getting humans to respond. So I can communicate in a way to get a human, to respond in the way that we’re trying to get them to [00:13:10] respond to. And you now know this more. So whether that’s through art or images or communication, verbal words, whatever that is, or email letters, whatever [00:13:20] that communication is.

[00:13:20] So that’s the marketing kind of world that I went through. And then having the agency for awhile and then being founder of a online [00:13:30] logo company with another partner of mine at the time we did a lot of branding. So I’ve branded over 15,000 companies. So there’s a lot of understanding how humans [00:13:40] view things, how they hear, how they receive information communication.

[00:13:43] So that’s really kind of the Jux, the bolts of that. Then I took a project with a marketing company. [00:13:50] And I think this is about where we met. Cause I was with that company for a while. I was director of marketing of a marketing company, which is already kind of a fun exercise for anyone. Who’s actually spent a lot of time in [00:14:00] marketing.

[00:14:00] It’s a very difficult job as it starts. But when you work for a marketing company, everyone who works here thinks they’re a marketing person. So the secretary is like, well, that’s not really the best way to say it, like, [00:14:10] okay, but you’re the secretary. Let me get back to what I do and let me work on this.

[00:14:13] And then eventually what happened is the ownership noticed that. Not only could I get the [00:14:20] response that I could help the salespeople, how they should respond to the response and the communication going back and forth. And then I became the director of sales and marketing for that company. And that’s [00:14:30] when we met.

[00:14:31] So now that was what end of 2009, beginning of 2010 way back then. That was the first time we met. Yeah. Yeah. A while back. Yeah.

[00:14:39] Rylee Meek: [00:14:39] That’s crazy. [00:14:40] Yep. We’ll elaborate more on our relationship and how that kind of evolved and things, but a couple things I want to just pinpoint out your dad. Wasn’t an entrepreneur at heart.

[00:14:48] Was he?

[00:14:49] Scott Thomas: [00:14:49] Nope, [00:14:50] he wasn’t actually. So my dad true and true absolute family, man, for sure. Literally. Did everything for us, the best Alica, any the best dad on the [00:15:00] planet. He was chairman of deacons. He was assignment for most of his life who worked, um, sign, who worked at a sign company. He was in the military for a little while.

[00:15:08] I was in the air force, went to Vietnam, came [00:15:10] home enough of that, started working at a sign company and was most of his life was assignment, very creative, different creative with his hands. He was, you know, Simon in New York. [00:15:20] And even when he moved to Florida, You’re the welder, you’re the plumber. You’re the electrician.

[00:15:23] You’re the painter. Like you gotta be able to do all those things. And very few jobs require that [00:15:30] much. So he knew everything from plumbing to wiring, to soldering, to welding, to, I mean, go all the way through painting to pinstriping and metal fabrication, everything. Sure. [00:15:40] So his creativity, but I’m saying this in the most.

[00:15:44] Simplistic humble way. They never made more than 40,000 a year in their life, but that [00:15:50] wasn’t their goal. Their goal was to make sure that their kids ate. They had a good upbringing, household, family, friends rules. We really understood structure. And like I said, [00:16:00] obviously the lineage of. Parents and good dads.

[00:16:02] This is the other thing. And maybe we can touch on it a little bit, but one of the things I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older, one of the biggest [00:16:10] voids that I’ve seen is good dads is, and that’s what I think a big issue in America. That’s one of the challenges that we have is not just the family unit, but, but specifically.

[00:16:19] Good [00:16:20] dads, a dad that is the structure, leadership backbone, all the things that they should kind of be. That’s one of the things that we really, really are missing. And I want to try to figure out a way [00:16:30] to try to help as much as I can in any direction that I can for that, just to carry on that same legacy.

[00:16:34] Cause I know not everyone has that now, even more, the more people I meet and the more people who have [00:16:40] had issues in their life, because they didn’t have a good debt is that’s a big

[00:16:43] Rylee Meek: [00:16:43] thing for me. That’s what we’ll do. We’re gonna do that for episode. Yeah, for sure, man, we’ll make sure that happens because I [00:16:50] think we can go for hours on that.

[00:16:51] So the point that I want to bring up was that, you know, that this entrepreneurship spirit that Scott has, that I have, it’s not like if, you know, if you’re looking at like your life and [00:17:00] your, your upbringing, your background, and it’s like, you’re the first person that’s going to take on this new role. Like that really is the point of entrepreneurship or the root word of it.

[00:17:09] The [00:17:10] French word  or whatever that I don’t speak French. Pardon my French, uh, literally. Um, but it means to undertake, right. And it’s like [00:17:20] that, that’s what we’re doing, why we host the CEO of your life events. It’s like, we are here to undertake whatever it is that’s at hand. And that’s something that you did, man.

[00:17:27] Cause you’re really the only one of all of your siblings. [00:17:30] That’s like a true entrepreneur, right? Yep. Yeah. And there’s nothing against like work. Your brother works for.

[00:17:37] Scott Thomas: [00:17:37] My brother’s an engineer. Automotive engineering. Yeah. Yeah. [00:17:40] Yep.

[00:17:40] Rylee Meek: [00:17:40] And it’s just a different path. It’s just, but it is one that is high risk, high, very high reward.

[00:17:46] Right. Um, but it is the ability to simply undertake [00:17:50] that task at hand. And, and I think that’s one of the things that I really saw in Scott. And when we first met a little over a decade ago now was, [00:18:00] you know, as, as you mentioned, like the sales and marketing. The director of a sales and marketing company, it’s like, huh?

[00:18:06] Try to wrap your head around that. Like, yeah, you still have to do sales and marketing [00:18:10] as a sales and marketing company. And it’s always the thing that we even teach a lot of it’s like those who can’t always tend to teach, do teach. Right? And it’s like, when hiring coaches, it’s like, everybody wants to [00:18:20] be a coach and they want to talk about how, how you’re, you’re supposed to go do stuff.

[00:18:23] And, but they’ve never done it themselves. That’s why, you know, we never hire coaches that you don’t, haven’t gone having gone there [00:18:30] before us. So, um, but anyway, and that’s really why. We came to you. It’s like, dude, we needed to fill some rooms of, of our ideal clients and prospects and you guys were [00:18:40] masters of that.

[00:18:40] So I really kind of look at like, you’re one of the first coaches that I hired from a marketing standpoint to fill these events. And you know, you guys were [00:18:50] crushing it on that side. As, as we built out the sales side of things and we were. You know, doing the first rendition of our seminar side of the business.

[00:18:59] For those that know [00:19:00] our background a little bit, we have a company called the social dynamic selling system in which we host dinner, seminar presentations, all throughout the country. We still have those companies. [00:19:10] Scott and I have started eight of our own companies together. And every single one of those have, has hit seven in a couple of them.

[00:19:16] Eight figures. And that’s really just because of the systems and processes that we’ve been able to [00:19:20] put in place,

[00:19:20] Scott Thomas: [00:19:20] but you teach others that system too. So not just, we don’t do it just for ourselves. So now we’re expanding that and teaching others how to do that [00:19:30] too. So kind of proving the system and the scalability part of it out, like you said, is now being a coach, but we also said let’s use that same criteria for ourselves.

[00:19:38] Don’t go try to be a coach or [00:19:40] something that you haven’t done. Right,

[00:19:41] Rylee Meek: [00:19:41] right. Yeah, exactly. And Scott and I. We hit it off, you know, a decade or so ago. And then just through different opportunities [00:19:50] and circumstances, situations that we’ve come across, you ended up leaving that company for another opportunity.

[00:19:55] And I was just kind of doing my own thing. I’d brought on another partner at [00:20:00] definite. Time of learning in my life of alignments and assignments. We talk a lot about with kinks council and, you know, through that process learned a lot was making [00:20:10] money, doing it, but was definitely making a lot of stupid mistakes.

[00:20:13] And in my personal path and career, and randomly did this would have been what, six, six or [00:20:20] so years ago now, seven, six, seven years ago. Uh, Saturday evening, I get this random text from Scott Thomas who pops up on my phone. I’m like, huh? [00:20:30] I haven’t heard from this cat in a couple of years, man. And it was like, well, what was

[00:20:33] Scott Thomas: [00:20:33] it, man?

[00:20:34] When are you going to be in Tampa

[00:20:35] Rylee Meek: [00:20:35] next? And ironically. This is a Saturday. Ironically, my [00:20:40] flight was booked for Sunday morning and I was flying down there actually to do seminars that Monday and Tuesday, right within 30 minutes of where you live, man. [00:20:50] So it’s just kind of crazy as a dude to tomorrow. And, and we ended up grabbing dinner.

[00:20:54] I think you came to F. My seminar that looked at you. Yeah. What was it? Walk-in tub. [00:21:00] Walk it back

[00:21:00] Scott Thomas: [00:21:00] though. Yeah, it was like, um, by the airport meet me at the international mall, but yeah, we went and barley where’s home right at the sandwich or something and he said, yeah, but that [00:21:10] conversation, like, again, I keep going back to it.

[00:21:11] I know we tell the story a lot, but that conversation actually, sometimes you go in life and you go, you know, when did I go down my path? And I turned right where I should have [00:21:20] turned left. And then sometimes you go, where was it? Then I turned right. And it was right. Like that was the right, right. I needed to take.

[00:21:26] Right, right, right. But, but that was one of those [00:21:30] where I literally was sitting there going, okay, I don’t like this. I don’t like this. I don’t like stuff that’s going on. And I know if I just sit here doing nothing, then nothing’s going to happen. And I hate [00:21:40] the old sayings. Cause I use them all the time.

[00:21:41] But if you think like you thought you’re going to get what you got, if you do nothing different than nothing different is going to happen. And I was sitting there going, I’ve got to change, I’ve got to [00:21:50] do something different. I know what I’m going to do. I’m going to ask people that I believe and trust their opinion and think they’ll tell me the truth.

[00:21:58] I think they’ll shoot me [00:22:00] straight. And I literally texted two people. You were one of them, one already lived here. So it was like, Hey, whenever you get a minute, I want to run something by you. And then right after that, I go. I’m going to call, right. I texted. [00:22:10] When are you going to be in Tampa, fully expecting you to go?

[00:22:12] Not for awhile. Why what’s up? You know, just a normal conversation. Wouldn’t Sue you go tomorrow. I go home. Just like that. I go, okay. [00:22:20] Let’s I’m going to make tomorrow work. However it works. And through that conversation, Hey, what’s going, going on is literally what it was. Right. What do you want? I don’t know.

[00:22:28] What do you got going on? Let’s just start [00:22:30] talking. We revealed the things that we want. We refilled re RealD. Our vision for ourself is what actually truly happened in that lunch. I said, this is where I want to be. This is what I [00:22:40] want to do. And I can tell you some stuff I’m not willing to break. I’m not, I don’t want partnerships that are this way.

[00:22:45] I don’t want to have a partnership where you feel like I’m taking a piece of something [00:22:50] you got going on. I can’t come add something to you. I think these were my words. If I can’t add something to you, then tell me now, and let’s not do anything. If I can add something to you and we [00:23:00] can double or do more, how do we do this?

[00:23:02] What are we going to do? Right. And we just started talking, talking about, he’s like, well, I’m here to do seminars anyway. Why don’t you just come check out the ones that I’m doing now? Because I was on the [00:23:10] other side of the filling the rooms and that side of it. Well, let me just go. Watch the front side.

[00:23:14] I’m like, this is all the stuff that I quote hypothetically was telling people they should have been doing anyway. So it went [00:23:20] back to someone who was practicing, what they preach like right here, live and in front of people write

[00:23:25] Rylee Meek: [00:23:25] themselves out there. Right? One of the things that you had mentioned earlier, You were a [00:23:30] wrestler and it wasn’t a team sport.

[00:23:32] You could be self-reliant. So I’m curious, we’ve never had this conversation, but I’m curious of, like, I know you had like a partner in the online logo and [00:23:40] stuff, but being somewhat reliant on, you know, because for me, most of my partnerships at that time was like, I’m doing everything and. It was just kind [00:23:50] of, I had a partner, but what was it like for you having to trust, you know, coming on board with the systems that we had in place, obviously you brought a lot to it, but we had current employees or different things [00:24:00] like that.

[00:24:00] Give me your take on that manager coming into new world,

[00:24:03] Scott Thomas: [00:24:03] actually. And I don’t know if we’ve had this conversation. I know we’ve talked about this stuff, but one of the fears that I had, it was [00:24:10] actual absolute fear. So the fear that

[00:24:12] Rylee Meek: [00:24:12] I spent of meek putting Scott on the spot, she’s

[00:24:16] Scott Thomas: [00:24:16] like, I know we’re recording the pitch.

[00:24:17] You are the hardest. Some hard topics. [00:24:20] And here’s the thing I actually remember when I said, I want to make sure I want to start this right. Because I know if it ends wrong, it’s going to be bad for [00:24:30] everyone. And I hate it because I’ve seen it. Right. So I want to start it right. And if it’s, I can’t add to, and I was consciously nervous all the time and to be totally blunt with you, I am [00:24:40] still today consciously nervous that what I’m providing is at any time ever.

[00:24:47] Taking away from something you think is yours [00:24:50] or your effort. I do truly look at our relationship. It’s a hundred percent me, zero you. So then that leaves me no room to blame you for something wrong. It’s a [00:25:00] hard thing to do, but it also creates it does create stress on me a little bit, because the way I carry that load, but I still think that holds my integrity as high [00:25:10] as it can.

[00:25:10] And it holds my am I carrying my weight. Question Mark. I can go to sleep at night. No problem. Now I feel like if there’s something for both of us [00:25:20] to do, sometimes it’s not, we don’t just split it. I go, just let me take it. I’ll do it. I think I’m better at that. Or I know you hate doing this. Let me just do it because I, and it’s not that I, I like doing [00:25:30] legal lawsuit kind of stuff

[00:25:31] Rylee Meek: [00:25:31] right there.

[00:25:32] If we get any of those emails, I know

[00:25:34] Scott Thomas: [00:25:34] I don’t like them either, but I know you don’t like them. And I feel like that’s something yeah, I can take off. Right. So I have that [00:25:40] conscious. Energy. I have this constantly over kind of hanging over me that that’s kind of my personal contract too. I never want a partner who thinks, [00:25:50] or you’re driving away one day going, gosh, I’m doing more of the work.

[00:25:53] Like I’d never want that feeling. Cause like two reasons. One, I knew you already had that feeling and I wasn’t going to be another one and [00:26:00] two, I wanted to be able to say I did. My part. And that’s, that’s one thing that was very different than like when you rustle it, listen, when you lose, you lose. You’re like, okay, cool.

[00:26:09] Today he was a [00:26:10] bigger guy. He was better, but it was either w or L there’s never a time where you both did good and everyone wins. Right. It wasn’t

[00:26:16] Rylee Meek: [00:26:16] like that. Right. Is that why you always wear like the stretchy underpants

[00:26:19] Scott Thomas: [00:26:19] still [00:26:20] wear them? I have a single amount right now. I wear it underneath to remind me to go home.

[00:26:25] Rylee Meek: [00:26:25] I’ve already told them we’re in the hotel. So there’ll be [00:26:30] sometimes a drill and then stretchy pants. Naturally,

[00:26:34] Scott Thomas: [00:26:34] but yeah, that’s actually a really good question. Cause I, I think sometimes, and you know, we have coaching customers [00:26:40] that will ask us, Hey, partnering is a hard thing and I will tell you there’s a lot of times where the first thing I’ll say is if you’re at all nervous or you think that you’re [00:26:50] unbalanced.

[00:26:51] I would work on not doing it right. Don’t do it get away. And especially if it’s a family member. So there’s, there’s times where you feel like you can actually do way more [00:27:00] damage because you weren’t crystal clear from the get-go from the beginning. And I think this goes back to kind of our example, when we say equally yoked, right.

[00:27:07] When you’re not equally yoked, and one is pulling the [00:27:10] weight. Eventually all that does is creates resentment. And that person feels the pain of the yolk crooked. And when that yolk is crooked, it’s hurting the one who’s doing all the pulling and the other. One’s just kind [00:27:20] of getting drug along anyway. So both of you are wasting your time.

[00:27:23] Right. But when you’re both pulling, I will say it, I think just purely on the results from that day, we [00:27:30] started then to today. I believe all jobs, all companies, all outcomes have been exponentially greater just because there’s two pulling

[00:27:38] Rylee Meek: [00:27:38] equally. Absolutely. [00:27:40] Absolutely. Because it is, there are things where it’s like, I just know, okay, this is Scott’s department.

[00:27:44] You’re going to do it. Cause we start out. I mean, we talk within our CEO of your life events about starting with [00:27:50] your vision and having, making sure that we’re all on the same page with the vision. And I think that’s one thing that we’ve done well. And we even literally, before this podcast, we’re like, After this, we needed to do vital [00:28:00] signs, right?

[00:28:00] Of all of our businesses, all of our companies. So that’s literally what we’re doing after. This is the vital signs of everything that we’ve got going on. And for those that don’t know what vital signs is, it’s, it’s literally, [00:28:10] it’s a, uh, us just really getting the pulse of where we’re spending our time.

[00:28:15] What’s making money for us, where is having the most impact for us. And [00:28:20] where are our passion lies? Right. Like right now, a lot of our passion and impact we know is with King’s counsel. Even though we know that it’s not. Really, I mean, it’s not really making money [00:28:30] right now, but the systems and everything in place, that’s making money for us in our other companies.

[00:28:36] So we can get more into that in another show. But one thing I had wrote down there [00:28:40] being, not a team sport and then coming into a role or multiple roles now that we have with other business partners and things. I think that’s interesting, man. So we’ve [00:28:50] we’ve then come into, you know, our wives have become great friends, uh, you know, more than just business partners.

[00:28:56] We’ll become best of friends and [00:29:00] vacations together, everything along those lines. And really through this process, we’ve, you know, monetarily we’ve done well. And through this process, you know, [00:29:10] is everybody kinda knows the story of, of how. We reached out to Steve and built that relationship all while, as I was like initially pursuing that, [00:29:20] knowing that you were handling things within some of our other companies that allowed me to initially pursue.

[00:29:25] So I think I just want, uh, the importance of partnerships. And as you mentioned, [00:29:30] being equally yoked is that if you don’t, if you have the same vision of, you know, the, the, my desire to originally reach out to Steve and it was like, this is going to be awesome. This is [00:29:40] great. And then I could come back and say it.

[00:29:42] Dude, this is, this is what’s going on with King’s counsel. What’s going on with these other 12 businesses that you’ve got that you’re working on. And then we’re able to come together and then doing the [00:29:50] vital signs, knowing what we want to focus on, what we want to pour gas on things along those lines is, is so important in any sort of business relationship.

[00:29:58] Your marriage [00:30:00] relationship, being able to come together in doing those vital signs is so important. So what do you feel as we’re, you know, we’re in San Diego right now, [00:30:10] the Scott flew into Minnesota, caught a flight into San Diego here. We’re here for the next 36 hours. And then we’re back to look. Tampa and then in the [00:30:20] Miami for the weekend.

[00:30:20] So we spent a lot of time in the hotels, but knowing what we’re doing is it was funny. We were just saying, like, I don’t think there’s a lot of people that could do what we’ve been doing here over the last few [00:30:30] months, please stick sticker on the flight. It said regaining travel or something, or getting back home, you traveled back.

[00:30:35] Did people not?

[00:30:38] Scott Thomas: [00:30:38] We’re both like Delta diamonds, [00:30:40] people

[00:30:41] Rylee Meek: [00:30:41] travel miles. So funny, but what do you think gives you that passion to actually. Continue to do what, what we’re doing or, you know, there’s the [00:30:50] vision that we have within King’s council. I know I’ve shared mine and Steve his, but I’m just curious. And I know a lot of listeners too, want to know, like, what’s, what’s the passion that drives you, man, to keep this thing going [00:31:00] well, and I

[00:31:00] Scott Thomas: [00:31:00] know I touched on it a little bit before, but I kind of feel like.

[00:31:03] And there’s a little bit of an age difference. 13 years older than you and Steve. Yeah, right? Yeah.

[00:31:09] Rylee Meek: [00:31:09] You could [00:31:10] babysat me. Yeah. Sometimes do. It’s still

[00:31:13] Scott Thomas: [00:31:13] kind of still, so I think what, I think a couple of things shift in life as you [00:31:20] kind of drift through stages. Right. So I think there’s the, you have little kids at home and everything’s fun and we’re doing stuff and then your kids are teenagers and they go out.

[00:31:27] So Hannah. Is out on her own now. So [00:31:30] she’s in college now and watching her grow in a different way as a, as an adult watching an adult. And I try to do my best kind of like my parents did with us. Hey, [00:31:40] you’re 18. Congratulations. Listen. All of your decisions are going to be your decisions. But I’ll help you if you want, but you got to ask me, we go, I’m going to start acting like your friend.

[00:31:49] Now [00:31:50] who’s willing to help in any way, but we’re equally like, you’re an adult now. So I need you to be kind of stand on your own two feet and go through that. So as I go through, what I’ve noticed is I’m taking on [00:32:00] some of the roles that my dad and my grandparents did, and I’m watching those seasons change slightly.

[00:32:06] And one of the things that I’ve found, and I know. I’ve said this [00:32:10] before. And I, and I always preface it by saying, I know it can sound pompous, but I want you to get the whole point. If we wanted to go out and open another company, make another, literally a million dollars in the [00:32:20] next five, six months, or we could do that.

[00:32:22] That does sound super niche. It does. I do it. I get it. I do. But here’s the reality, but that’s a reality. That is a reality. You surely could do that, [00:32:30] but we’re at a point now where I feel like we’re good at it. We know we can do it and there’s a comfort level to it, but. Like, what am I going to do? Just buy a bunch of [00:32:40] more stuff.

[00:32:40] I mean, yes, fun things are fun. Things, cars and houses and trips. I get all that, but I’ve kind of come to a new currency and like I say, helping someone [00:32:50] else, if I can watch someone else who no one in their family ever made a million dollars. Say you taught me something, whatever that is, you taught me something or you helped me with [00:33:00] something that got me from, I was on my way to, I made it.

[00:33:03] That would be a huge payoff to me that the feeling that that’s it. So we talk about your, why [00:33:10] has to be strong enough to get you through stuff and how do you get on a plane and fly away from your family and not sleep in your own bed? We were just talking about this. You’re not gonna sleep in your bed three days this [00:33:20] month, right?

[00:33:20] Right. So how can you do that? And it can’t, I’m telling you, it can’t be just money. It can’t, it can’t, you can pretend like that for awhile, but it just [00:33:30] can’t. And when you see the lights that you can touch, the help that you can, you can break generational curses just by. And here’s where this comes back.

[00:33:40] [00:33:40] If somebody in King’s counsel didn’t have a dad teach them how to manage their money or understand their bills, or know that they didn’t have to just work a job, they can actually start something on their own. You can go [00:33:50] right now, go to the secretary of state, open a company and just get started. We live in a beautiful country that you can do that.

[00:33:56] But if you didn’t have someone who could help you do that, I want to be that dad to them [00:34:00] too, or whatever, that figure that coach, that mentor, that thing could be that payoff to me is so huge. But it’s worth it. And it comes at a [00:34:10] season where we’re pretty stable with our systems and we’ve tightened all that up.

[00:34:14] And I still believe that God had a systematized stuff so that we could get to a season just like [00:34:20] this. Right. So that comfort that you feel to go, I’m going to go reach out to Steve and I’m going to go somewhere because you know, there’s somebody here kind of taking care of some of the other stuff. Is, that’s what [00:34:30] our systems are doing now for me to like, okay, it’s we have great employees.

[00:34:34] They love us. Everything’s good. They’re solid. We trust them. They’re compensated well. Everything’s great in that. [00:34:40] Sense. So everyone’s really winning it really, it’s a win-win, win-win, win-win all the way around. Right. And I think that we can take, I don’t want to take anything I’ve ever learned any knowledge that I [00:34:50] have any skills that I’ve either acquired or I’m just duplicating somebody else who taught me quite frankly, I’m just going to keep paying and paying it forward.

[00:34:56] There’s no reason to take any of this with us. We should leave it all on the field and [00:35:00] leave it all with the other players. And I just want to kind of teach more people.

[00:35:03] Rylee Meek: [00:35:03] Yeah, yeah, absolutely agree with that man. But one thing I want to make sure. That people hear is I’m a [00:35:10] firm believer if you have the ability to make money.

[00:35:13] And I like to talk about this because I feel like so many Christians don’t talk about this because they grew up in a world of [00:35:20] this poverty mentality. And I think it’s one of the biggest deceptions out there is the ability to make money or create wealth [00:35:30] is something it’s God given. And we all should, if you.

[00:35:32] Identify as a King, you know, a biblical King in the Bible and, and you have that ability to earn money and make [00:35:40] money. You better freaking do it, right? Because you got a responsibility. It is, it is a responsibility that we need to take seriously because this, you know, we talk about the Christian economy and [00:35:50] just it’s, it’s literally not it’s nonexistent.

[00:35:52] And, and that’s, I know I was going to say what I’m hoping for. It’s not, it’s like what, I know that one of the verticals [00:36:00] that, you know, Scott and I are here to do and help develop within the King’s council is that financial pillar. And to be able to create a true kingdom Christian economy here [00:36:10] where, you know, we’ve, we know we’ve been given that ability, but that’s not enough.

[00:36:13] Like we have that stuff in place. It’s still continually. Making money for us, but we’re now in a position where we [00:36:20] want to teach people how to do that themselves specifically in the Christian community here, because that’s, what’s going to be generational.

[00:36:26] Scott Thomas: [00:36:26] Absolutely. Let me clarify. The disclaimer was I know how [00:36:30] it could sound, but let’s be crystal clear.

[00:36:31] I do not apologize for success and I would never go into Apollo eight. I don’t want anyone else to apologize for success and actually kind of that, that does touch on something. Cause I sort of [00:36:40] felt that myself and now I learned it. And I’ve told this story before I now clearly understand it, but I know I felt that the wrong way.

[00:36:48] So [00:36:50] my grandfather, my mom’s dad in this tiny little town, he was the mayor. He owned the insurance company and he was bank president for a little while. And I remember my grandmother always [00:37:00] telling my mom, you know, we’re not really Cadillac people and you’ve got, gotta be careful. Now let me. Preface that I’ve heard this my whole life.

[00:37:08] That doesn’t mean it’s bad or [00:37:10] wrong, but you got to understand the context. If you’re in a tiny little town and a farmer. Who just lost half a crop or something needs money to make it through the season. And there’s seven [00:37:20] kids and he goes to the banker to borrow money or the insurance company, or right.

[00:37:25] He’s got to go talk to my grandfather, Ozzy daisies. He’s got to call him and say, I need [00:37:30] help. The last thing you want to do is pull up on his farm in a fancy, shiny, big catalog. That’s a hundred percent accurate. And they’re actually right. And it’s smart to think that way, [00:37:40] but what it did as a young person with a lot of energy and zest for I’m going to go be a superstar one day, like in my head, I can picture it.

[00:37:48] It got me thinking, [00:37:50] why do people feel so limited that may have been an appropriate move for him in that town in that time? But me, not me. I don’t want I’m rolls Royce. I got rolls Royce, [00:38:00] listen, I don’t need a Cadillac. I don’t even want a Cadillac. Right. But, and, and, and I say that to say this, I understand where you could take a message from a parent as a [00:38:10] child out of context.

[00:38:10] As a mature adult. Now I clearly understand why that was the case, but I also can see why somebody would carry that for a long time. And if a coach or somebody [00:38:20] didn’t help them. Hey, clarify that message. Don’t carry that with you. It’s not like to, to prove to the world that you’re actually a good, humble person.

[00:38:29] You should [00:38:30] stay with low means. No, no, no. You can have. Millions of dollars and still be a humble, gracious person, right? The dollar amount has nothing to do with it, but I can tell you if you don’t [00:38:40] have some of that clean first, and then you go make a bunch of money, all it does is magnify your personality or something.

[00:38:45] If you’re a jerk, you’re going to be just a jerk with a million dollars in a jerk with a million dollars. [00:38:50] Can do a lot about it. Yeah. So yes, all the virtues and the humble and all that, that’s all still. That makes sense. But don’t confuse that with staying limited or [00:39:00] holding yourself back. Because really money just creates options.

[00:39:04] And for me and my family and my kids and my life, listen, I want the options. If any of my [00:39:10] kids or my family, brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, any of them ever were to get sick or something and need resources. That’s why I did it. Right. [00:39:20] The highest amount of options I can get. And that’s really it so I can get, I see how people sometimes think that.

[00:39:27] But I think that’s also a self limiting belief that people carry way [00:39:30] too long without full context sometimes. And that’s one that I actually, I would have gotten wrong if I didn’t mature through. And wasn’t able to look at that through a different lens from a [00:39:40] different

[00:39:40] Rylee Meek: [00:39:40] time. Yeah, absolutely. Because I think a lot of Christians think that, you know, if, or it’s just a.

[00:39:47] Perception of well, they make [00:39:50] money. So they’re of the world, right? Whatever that even means. But that, that was a, I think a lot of people our age right now grew up with that self limiting belief, or it’s just a [00:40:00] mindset that is not necessarily their mindset, but it was somebody else’s projection on them that they allowed to warp their, their existing mindset now and, and [00:40:10] us making money or you listening right now, you making money is not taking.

[00:40:16] Money away from other people. It’s not a limiting resource or a [00:40:20] limited resource. So you thinking that you’re doing, doing good by not making it is not helping anybody. Right. It’s what you do and how you [00:40:30] steward it. That’s the most important component of it, but you still got to make it to be able to steward it.

[00:40:34] Yeah. Right. So if we go back to the talent parable, like, what are you going to do with it? That’s going to be [00:40:40] the most important component. And that’s, that was the game changer for me of, as you mentioned, I mean, if you’re a jerk, you’re just a big rich jerk, right? Not that I’m [00:40:50] living proof of that. Like during my first marriage, right.

[00:40:53] That’s I’m on

[00:40:54] Scott Thomas: [00:40:54] the, on the wrong things,

[00:40:54] Rylee Meek: [00:40:54] doing the wrong thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so that’s that’s for a whole nother [00:41:00] session, but anyways, but this has been good, dude. I know I wanted our listeners to get to know you more and more, and they’re going to [00:41:10] continually know you more and more because, you know, Scott is going to be on a lot of these episodes with us here as part of the leadership team here within the King’s council tribe.

[00:41:17] But man, I know you’re a wizard at communication skills [00:41:20] and in marketing, but any like parting words you want to give, uh, Our listeners here,

[00:41:25] Scott Thomas: [00:41:25] you know, I think it, look, I like to look at both sides of this, you know, cause we [00:41:30] sometimes say, you know, do I need a coach or do I need a mentor? Do I need it? I, I would look at both sides.

[00:41:35] I would say everyone, whether you’re a coach or not, whether you’re everyone should have one, [00:41:40] right? So everyone should have someone else who can help. You can not read your own label from the inside of your bottle. So until I got other people, like you said, just asking me early on. [00:41:50] You had your whole business was working, but asking me for my portion of what I knew and an expertise that I had that just complimented a part of your everyone’s everyone’s life is so [00:42:00] multifaceted.

[00:42:00] Anyway, you should have in gained interest in, in knowledge, from a lot of sources with many advisors, write plans, fail without. So I think you [00:42:10] should. That’s one thing that everyone should have, and then. Do it in a spirit that you were trying to gather skills so that you can become bigger and better. So that one day you can share those skills so that [00:42:20] others can be bigger and better and do it with that purpose.

[00:42:22] And it makes. It makes being coached and being coachable so much more valuable to you because, you know, one day I’m going to get to [00:42:30] pay it to somebody else. And now I get to be the shepherd of the middle of that. I actually have been coached by others. I’ve learned lots of things. I’ve produced lots of things and it’s helpful to me now I get to [00:42:40] do it to somebody else.

[00:42:41] And it’s, so that’s such a wonderful field that really, really truly is a wonderful feeling. So do it with a spirit of, I want to gain knowledge. To become better [00:42:50] so that I can help other people. And now not only just money, you’re actually a better person with better set of morals, better set of standards.

[00:42:56] But you know, do that in that. So be coachable so that you [00:43:00] can and be a good coach. That’s good. Does that make sense?

[00:43:01] Rylee Meek: [00:43:01] Absolutely. I love it. That’s good. And if any of you guys want to know more about. Our coaching programs within the King’s council. Go ahead and text [00:43:10] us. (727) 472-3860. Text King, the letter King, K I N G to (727) [00:43:20] 472-3860.

[00:43:20] I know Scouts. It’s getting late here and we’ve got an early morning. Tomorrow for our leadership development day out here in San Diego. These are things that we host once a month. They’re almost like almost [00:43:30] business, little mini masterminds, really where we dedicated an entire day for those that are within the upper room here within the King’s council.

[00:43:36] So we’re going to get some rest on that, but man, this has been awesome. I appreciate you just [00:43:40] ripping this here in the Hilton garden Inn.

[00:43:44] Scott Thomas: [00:43:44] When the studios of

[00:43:46] Rylee Meek: [00:43:46] California from Carlsbad, California [00:43:50] on the road. Yeah. Right now, this has been good. I appreciate it, brother.

[00:43:57] Thanks for tuning in to this week’s episode of the Kings [00:44:00] council podcast. For more information on the Kings council and becoming the CEO of your own life. Visit Kings council Today, [00:44:10] you can also follow us on Instagram at Kings council coaching. We’ll see you next time. [00:44:20]


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